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, it is not a recession, it has been building for decade-sapping the ability of the american economy to grow, and the average american to rise. to make the u.s. less competitive, less attractive for business, we go back to the fiscal cliff discussion over and over again because unless we get the economy really moving and growing in a long run, these budget problems will occur over and over again. we have identified eight areas where we find, these things would move the needle in a reasonable time frame, two or three or four years we start to see impact and there's quite bipartisan support. and the sustainable budget compromise. number 2, easing immigration now. we need a broader immigration reform, but it is one of the abilities to move rapidly to inject skill to the economy to fill jobs we badly need to fill to sustain our growth. it is not long term solution to the skill problem in america but a critical step we need to take to move the needle. we have got to simplify and realize the corporate tax code. everybody agrees. we just did a survey that included a loss of members of the general p
to make a decision and then they looked at taxes, the economy, jobs, and they went to the president. >> what is an emerging trend in technology or how people consumer information that will have implications for 2014? the leading edge? >> that is a good question. the prevalence of people getting their information online has exploded. you look as swing voters and how little they are watching tv, we all had three places you got your news from. now they get their nightly news from 15 sources. jon stewart is an important moment from that. if you are a democratic-leaning woman, you love rachel maddow. getting to those people is harder. they are way more online than anyone. you have to go to where they are. campaigns will spend more and more of their money online than ever before. until it reaches parity with television. >> and you think television will still be big in 2016. >> it is going to be the dominant media but online is going to catch up very quickly. i think it already is catching up for young voters who are looking -- >> within a couple cycles? >> no question. i think the next el
is to talk about the economy. but i would say something is. romney only emphasized -- very quickly. we cannot run only on an economic message. we have the full conservatives on social issues, on the national security, and on the economy. spent and aspirational. aspirational a mechanism where you are free to go as far as you want to go and to do what you want to do. and you are right about the hispanic community, especially they are very and trunk -- entrepreneurial. guess what. they start liking free government less. >> unfortunately, we're out of time to want to thank you all for coming today. please join me in thanking our panelists for this terrific presentation. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> tonight in primetime we get a closer look at the presidential election. we have from president obama's former campaign manager and republican strategist steve smith. that's and university of delaware and starts at 8 p.m. eastern. here on c-span2, author mark friedman talks about how more baby boomers are entering into a second careers. he's the author of the big shi shift. that's also at 8 p
to you saying, look, congress might not blow up the economy for no good reason. or if i do have to say it, i shouldn't sound excited about it. that should be a given. but in recent years, it has not been a given. and the reason it hasn't been is in some ways traceable to this guy. you know that guy. that is grover norquist. if you go by his name or his picture, he may not seem imposing. but in the republican party, he's a guy that breaks your knees if you vote for higher taxes. all republicans pretty much sign it and they are very, very, very loathed to break it. and that's made it impossible to reach a deficit reduction deal, until now. "the new york times" has an article in which republican after republican after republican goes on the record by name dismissing his pledge and his power. peter king says a pledge is good at the time you sign it. in 1941 i would have voted to declare war on japan. but each congress is a new congress and you can't have a rule that you're never going to raise or lower taxes. i don't want to rule anything out. senator of georgia said, i'm frankly not concerne
going to make the economy worse. they just keep pumping more debt in the the economy. host: you are saying go over the fiscal cliff? caller: yes. it is not even enough in my opinion to balance the budget. it is still about three times the average deficit under bush. let us go back to the clinton tax era. eileen anywhere between republican and libertarian. up -- yes i am not. i lean anywhere between republican and a libertarian. host: what do you make of republicans up on capitol hill -- to sort of a back off the tax pledge that he took when he ran for senate, saying he would not raise taxes. caller: if we are going to raise taxes my important thing is raising them on everybody. because if they try to strike a compromise where only the rich get taxed, then it gets more progressive. it is not a point to help the budget. we are right to raise taxes, raise them all the way down to where clinton had them. host: senators lindsey gramm represented peter king, talking publicly abandoning the pledge of democrats will talk seriously about entitlement reforms. rest in peace, grover norquis
return to a normal economy that returns about 18.5%, that would increase revenue an additional over $400 billion per year, that's $750 billion of revenue per year through economic growth. and the president, his proposal would raise 1/10 of that but would put at risk the economic growth and that $750 billion. so -- >> sir, with all due respect, though -- >> counterproductive. >> that's an answer to the question. there's nothing you see over the next 35 days that would have you break that pledge with grover norquist? >> no, because raising taxes harms the economic growth. you get ten times the revenue by economic growth rather than punishing success. and, again, all of us are saying president obama, show us your plan for restraining the size of government, that's the main problem. again, his revenue proposal would raise $68 billion when we have over $1 trillion worth of deficit. where's the other $1 trillion in his balance plan? mr. president, show us your plan. >> sir, one thing, mitch mcconnell has said that revenue is on the table as long as entitlements would be on the table. conductin
families should go up. it would be bad for the economy. it would be bad for those families. in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so i think it's very important that we get that resolved. and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach. >> the president met with middle class tax payers today, urging them to employ twitter hash tag my y2k, telling congress this is too important for them to screw it up. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and a new survey shows the president has the public on board in a new washington post poll, 60% support raising taxes on incomes over $250,000. a healthy majority. indeed, even some republicans appear to be under sway, by the force of reason. >> in my view, we all agree we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should just take them out of this discussion right now. continue to fight against any rate increases. try to continue to work h
about how enacting comprehensive immigration reform can help on the jobs and economy issue. simply put, immigration reform would create a fair, humane and effective system that levels the playing field for all workers. right now our immigration system doesn't work for anyone but unscrupulous employers. we need to take the power out of the hands of those who are exploiting our current immigration situation and put it back in the hands of workers and fair and honest employers. if all workers have a legal status, employers can't skirt labor laws said they have to pay fair wages and abide the rules. immigration reform is the right thing to do as well as the economically smart thing to do. children should not have to live in fear of their parents deportation every day of their lives and some of the hardest working and most honorable people in our society should not have to be subject to exploitation and harassment. finally, i would just like to say that i'm truly appreciative of the support we have received from the urban league and other african-american leaders on this issue. i know that
the government, we will close down the american economy and, in turn, the global economy. if they do not solve the issue of this runaway spending, get some way to stop borrowing in excess, he tells the president of the united states if we default on this, on our obligations and our ious, we will trigger a depression worse than the 1930s. anybody here remember the 19 1930s depression? you probably don't. i don't. i was not born, but i've read about it. it was a calamity for the world. tim geithner said to the president what, if we default on this, if we do not solve this problem, we will have an economic catastrophe that will make the 2008 financial crisis a footnote in the history books. anyone remember the 2008 financial crisis? that's coming not from some columnist or journalist, that is coming from well-informed secretary of the treasury. you think about this, there is a value in running scared. if you think about after 9/11, the terrorist attacks, one thing the country did collectively is they set up tsa, the screening at airports. there are all kinds of work, very significant work done to
have seen the worst of this economy, think again. another recession could be just around the corner regardless if congress solves the fiscal cliff crisis or not. one of the top economists, martin feldstein of harvard university, joins me now. >> it's good to be back. cheryl: you were with ben bernanke last week. there were two questioners talking to mr. ben bernanke. he has been very vocal in his call for congress to fix the fiscal cliff. you are a little bit more negative than your colleagues. why is that? >> well, what he said is if we go over the fiscal cliff, the economy will drop into a recession and the fed does not have the ability to stop that. now the question is, what if we do not hold the fiscal cliff but some of the other things that are being talked about, like the president's plan, what would happen then? the president's plan to raise taxes on high income individuals, cutting deductions for high income individuals, raising the corporate tax rate read a long list of that sort. eliminating the payroll tax holiday. that would take about 2% out of the gdp next year. we are
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shortcut to a resurgent economy and the new greatness.idenc lou: coming up short losing the majority of the swing states. joining me now the talk about some of the reasons behind that, the shifting demographics. a former assistant to presidento george w. bush, also with us opera the new york times best-seller the amateur on the obama administration this is as if the obama team did not -- it just knew exactly wat would unfold. that is how together they were >> i'll understand that. the cost per ad, the republicans have to pay, many times more than the democrats. they bought there rate and they bought them in a very inefficient way. the whole campaign was just shot through with inefficiency. lou: de think it will be as easy for the republicans to raise money next time? >> people talking about, is there a silver lining for the republican. no doubt there are a lot of attractive potential candidates. you can go on and on. the question is, the base which controls the primary situation, will they go for any of these people, these populist conservatives overvalue conservatives. lou: let me p
will require to help its economy recover. >> eliot: that is the balancing act that prime minister morsi is trying to effect wait here. in essence for his economy to come back, he knows he needs the united states. he needs peace. a war would be devastating to what long-term he has to care about. is that, in fact, the leverage that secretary of state clinton has with morsi in saying to him you have got to lean on hamas to stop this and somehow we will navigate through this in the coming months but it seems to me that morsi has made himself a central figure in this process. >> well, sure. i suppose the difficulty for president morsi is hamas is the key actor in this equation but obviously there are other groups resident in gaza that perhaps even hamas does not completely control. so when you get to that aspect of assurances, prime minister netanyahu wants a period of calm before he signs a truce. obviously gave that point -- it is very challenging. eliot, the other aspect as your opening clip of hillary clinton underlined is th
the entire economy because we're not confident that our guys can govern anymore. people like me just aren't hiring because we're not confident they can do it. >> well, the white house echoed that concern this morning. a new report says failing to act on the president's plan for middle class americans would freeze the economic recovery. obama's plan includes lower taxes on the first $250,000 earned by every american and tweaking the alternative minimum tax. the white house report estimates that consumer spending would fall by $200 million. now that's more than three times what consumers spent just over this entire holiday weekend. there could be a drag on a range of industries from cars and housing to restaurants and supermarkets, if congress can't reach a deal. and look, pocketbook issues are not the only problem here. carl levin, the democratic senator and chair of the armed services committee said automatic cuts to government spending could impact public safety. >> i think you should be worried if you have a defense job and we all ought to be worried whether we are dependent upon other
? what will it do to our economy? >> i don't think it will do that much because i think people will assume that a solution will be found quite promptly. it's a little like the debt ceiling question. i mean, people know -- the rest of the world may think that we're idiotic at times but they don't think we're going to commit suicide. and so i think if -- i hope something gets worked out before january 1, but if it goes a little beyond that i do not think -- >> rose: so january 10 or -- >> if you guaranteed me that the fiscal cliff we would go past that, i wouldn't sell a share of stock today. >> rose: you have that confidence that in the end they will fix it? >> yeah, and this that think economy works. >> rose: is it getting better? >> it's getting better. it's been getting better since really the summer of 2009. we've had four years straight now where the stock market's given a profit of return. the economy is getting better. we had a tremendous bubble and when it burst it was -- it had ramifications for all aspects of society and it was magnified by the abuses that had taken pl
a lot of -- >> he's got a cleaner slate than four years ago with an economy. >> start building the sub structure to show actual progress. a debate in the white house is, like, it's a long term thing, health care, for instance, but showing results any time soon to people in need. well, that was the long term game. of course, the stimulus was the short term game, but, still, americans don't feel the effects. some of it is marketing, some of it is real, of a lot of what obama's done. i think the key now is, because of the re-election, he'll actually have time for americans just to go, well, i feel a little better, and it's substantive, it's real. my health insurance -- >> that was true of clinton, and david said in the conversation that clinton adopt seize the reigns of a -- didn't seize the reigns of a second term. >> seized something else instead. [laughter] [applause] >> that was good. >> the whole year before wasting 1997 before the scandal broke will. >> welfare reform -- >> asking dave because we're in biography here. i'm fascinated by them figuring out who they were in childhood. y
. it is is sapping the ability of the american economy to grow and it is topping -- zapping the ability of the average american to rise. until we look at the major core issues that are making the u.s. more attractive to business, we will go back to the fiscal cliff discussion over and over again. unless we can get our economy really moving and growing in the long run, these will just occur over and over again. we identified eight areas, as you mentioned, where we find there is broad consensus where we believe these things would really move the needle in a reasonable time frame, two, three, four years. there is some real bipartisan support. the first is the need of a sustainable budget compromise. that is widely accepted by all. two, easing on highly skilled immigration now. yes, when a broader immigration reform, but this is one of the abilities to really move rapidly to inject skills and to the economy and fill jobs badly need to be filled to sustain our growth. it is not a long-term solution and there, but it is a critical step we can take now that would really move the needle. we hav
represented their interests. >> we also have a terrible economy. a weak economy is the only reason they're in the game. i'm going to end this conversation because i don't think it's been resolved, erin, and i -- erin, you made a good case for younger people. that's the future of every party. go younger. i agree with that. the problem is they have to decide ideologically can they compete for senate seats in pennsylvania, maybe not massachusetts, but new jersey, connecticut, new england? are they going to give you up a portion of the country and say, we're going to make our votes in the south? it seems to me that's a problem they've got right there. they've given up both coasts, by the way. that's my argument, not yours. robert, thank you for coming in tonight. happy thanksgiving. you should be in cars heading home. erin, you've been doing great this year. great coverage. >>> coming up, republicans aren't the only ones fighting among themselves. some progressives are warning president obama, they don't like this debt reduction deal, they'll let people hear. so it begins. also the republic
, that the labor supply remains small. and the guest worker program is key because, again, to grow our economy we need to grow many industries that need that foreign work force. the last immigration reform that we had on the reagan years lacked a workable guest worker program. that was amnesty. we gave amnesty to three million individuals. but at that time the market had already absorbed those three million individuals, so what happened? immigrants kept coming in to do jobs that americans didn't want or where there were simply no americans working age to do them. so another community for undocumented immigrants was created. we need a mechanism to facilitate the legal flow of the foreign workers that america needs. and it can't be a mechanism with quotas arbitrarily set by government. because at the end, the issue of illegal immigration is an issue of big government. it is big government saying we're going to have tease guest worker programs that are going to be highly regulated and in some areas or for some type of jobs, we're going to cap. we're going to have ridiculous quotas that don't represe
to raise taxes on small businesses because it would damage the economy. now he thinks this economy is stronger than it was two years ago and we are in better shape to take the economic hit. it is an interesting question. if you go over the tax cliff and taxes are raised dramatically, the house would have our past -- will already have passed. on the sequester, i thought if republicans won the house and senate of the president say, since it -- sequestration would not happen. it denied give up any of the savings from the sequestered . but did so by impacted the pentagon less heavily than the sequestered it. but divided government, i think you get the question. president said he does not want to change the money for the pentagon. mitch mcconnell said we are not raising taxes to ransom the pentagon budget cuts. a lot of focus has been on the pentagon but these are more concerned about the $50 billion in domestic discretionary spending restraint every year. you did to the republican study committee. the announced all a thing worse than sequestration would not be having savings. this stam
1st or 11:59 the day before january 1st. it's already starting to impact the economy. whether it impacts consumers -- and we'll find out today, by the way, in terms of thanksgiving and what's that meant, whether consumers are coming out or not -- but thoorz the bigger issue that manufacturing has already started to slow down. people are starting to worry. it may end up in the economic numbers already, just the fact that we're having this debate. and then come january 1st, do we go over? what does that mean? is it the fiscal cliff? or does it look like the fiscal bungee cord? that's what some people are calling it. we go over for two weeks and then we snap back and get a deal and what does that deal look like? >> a lot of positive talk following the election. even bill kristol talking about let's feel free to raise taxes if it's part of a bigger deal. a lot of elections don't have consequences, midterm elections. this was supposed to be a status quo election. but something happened here. i think the fever is starting to break. >> absolutely. you're going to see it, i think, on
comprehensive immigration reform. he sees it as a key part to stabilizing the economy, investing in the middle class, not having a subclass of 11 million people that hurt economic revitalization. for him i think it is a piece of the middle class agenda. >> are the other unions working with senator schuman who say they are starting to work on a piece of legislation? >> the majority leader and center schumer. we have some issues with this idea, but we applaud his enthusiasm. we are trying to get him on the steps of key elements that are important to us. >> where do you disagree? >> i think he thinks a national id card is required. we do nothing that needs to be part of the solution to fixing the broken immigration system. >> washington journal continues. host:jim martin n. he will be talking about the future of health care, especially the elements of the affordable care act that are put to place. guest: glad to be here. host: what does it mean in general for older americans now that the election is over? guest: i think things like obamacare, the affordable care act, seniors were opposed to it b
.s. treasury department is now stopping short of labeling the world's second biggest economy a currency manipulator. the white house is expected now to send the congress a multi-billion-dollar request on the recovery from superstorm sandy. the storm caused an estimated $71 billion in damages in new york and new jersey, and some congressional aides saying the request for funding would likely be at least $11 billion. the move comes as canada gets close to its decision on whether to approve the transaction. the energy companies say discussions with the committee are still in progress, and of course they had to file approval because they have extensive operations in the u.s. gulf of mexico. >>> "the wall street journal" reporting that virtue is emerging as the frontrunner to buy knight capital. they would possibly sell off parts of that business. finally, we can't get away from the story of twinkies. the bakers union of hostess brands wants a bankruptcy judge to appoint a chapter 11 trustee to ensure an orderly winddown. the union is saying it objects the allowing incumbent management to su
the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses, hurt our economy. >> so let's bring in the political panel on this topic for today. erin mcpike back with us and david goodfriend, democratic strategist and contributor. thank you for sticking around. let's bring in the element of tom cole, a republican of oklahoma. doesn't get more red than oklahoma. let's play what he said regarding support and passing the middle class tax cut. >> in my view, we all agree we won't raise taxes on people making less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion right now. >> what is the issue with that? >> well, what congressman cole has really shown is that there's an imminent amount of good logic and sense in preserving the current tax rates for 98% of americans for a lot of reasons. one of which is the gdp dependent on consumer spending. 0% of the economy is consumer spending. if you take $2,000 on average out of pockets of consumers, it's going to hurt the economy so right away you have a low tax good economic rational behind it but there are politics
this difficult time we have had with the economy. the richest of the rich will have to pay a little bit more to solve the financial problems we have in this country. [inaudible] >> right after the senate majority leader harry reid spoke, republican leaders held their own briefing and ways to find a deal and criticized leader reid's plan. this is 15 minutes. >> good afternoon, everyone. as we head into the fiscal cliff negotiations, my advice to the president would be -- seems like our friends on the other side are having difficulty turning off the campaign. we need to sit down and work this matter out. i think we have a clear sense and opportunity here at the end of the year to do something important for the country. we all know that the most critical steps to be taken are to save the entitlements, which are on an unsustainable path to bankruptcy. there's no better time to begin to fix that problem than right now. so i would hope our friends on the other side can kind of turn off the campaign and get into a cooperative mode here to reach a conclusion. which leads me to make a further observa
taxes which we think would be harmful to the economy. and if you look at how much revenue that raises, $68 billion next year, that funds a government for less than a week. and it does potential significant harm to the economy and raises taxes on the very people we are asking to go out and create jobs. >> dick durbin says when you're talking about entitlement reform or cuts in spending for medicare, medicaid for example, he says that's too complicated now. listen to what he said this morning. >> when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in 12 years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. >> can you defer medicare for example -- medicare reform until after you get a deal on the fiscal cliff? >> well, if we do that, wolf, i think what you have to do is also defer the issue of taxes. i think you extend tax rates some time into the foreseeable future whether that's six months or a year and allow us to go through the process where we can deal with entitlement reform and tax reform in regular order.
doesn't matter the economy if you don't ever have life -- >> why should a choice person vote for the continuation of this republican platform which says from the moment of conception that unborn child or fetus is a citizen with rights of property, life, and liberty? >> there are plenty of people that are pro-choice republicans that are out there just like there are plenty of pro-life democrats out there because they're going to pick their own preferences. i would disagree this party is demographically falling apart when a 49%/51% election just occurred. you look at the house of representatives and you have this large percentage of republicans there. we still are a very divided nation. >> it's going to be about 47%, and most americans voted in the house races, most americans did vote for democrats. because of gerrymandering your party got a big majority, but that's because of gerrymandering. >> it's because the democrats waste a lot of votes in big city democratic districts. 99% of the vote. >> i want to say something very important about abortion. most women who have abortion
the fiscal cliff? >> everybody agrees. >> going over the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will hurt job creation in our country. >>er -- every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> shepard: so how to avoid that. >> the president and congress will either fail together or we will succeed together. >> there has to be a deal. there has to be an agreement. >> and if they can't come up with a compromise, we are all going to pay the price. plus, they are some of the biggest names in baseball. bonds, clemens, sosa. all three tainted by accusations they used performance enhancing drugs. but should that keep them from cooper's town? tonight, the great debate over baseball's hall of fame ballot but first from fox this wednesday night, the president hopes who have the framework of a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff by christmas. president obama says he would like congress to pass a bill even sooner to extend tax cuts for the middle class families. and he invited some of those middle class americans to the white house today to help make
with him. the goal here is to grow the economy and control spending. you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. we're willing to put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> so, joy, boehner is not exactly ready to go along with the american people, it seems. >> i think what you just saw there, rev, was a man waiting for bated breath on january 3rd, hoping that every day gets shorter and shorter and shorter as long as we're still in the lame duck congress and tea party members are still there. i think john boehner still has an ounce of fear that he will lose that vote. so he's always watching his right flank. i think boehner will be in a stronger position if we get to january 3rd and there isn't a deal and he can force a deal on his tea party members but this is a guy who still has to message to the right. this deal would have to be made by the congress that just lost the election, the congress headed by the tea party. and it's iron ironic that it lost the election but boehner has to cling to it for now. >> but the american people
think there's a very serious damage done to the economy and to the world economy and the approaches bush took running up to this and that obama is put on steroids. this is in the middle of many problems to continue to not be ended. and the was a very big problem. to be much more serious about spending and it was in that way before. >> how do you fix? >> the house republicans already passed the budget that would work and pass the extension of the tax cuts they would work and you go in and have these conversations in front of the american people without about how romney is mean to dogs and causes cancer and actually talking about issues. and i think that is a debate that we need to have. we haven't had it, certainly didn't have it in this last election and we can have it now. it's very helpful. i think at the end of the day we will make the right decision partially because the democrats are terrified of the damage that obama has to drive them over and they wouldn't actually do that as obama threatened to throw us off a cliff year ago in august and didn't. >> we weren't going to get the neg
line, if you're a retail giant and just trying to get the most you can in a tough economy, do you see why they want to get out there and just get a jump-start and open up tonight? >> i definitely do, especially in the economic times understand why they would open. however, they are claiming to have consulting every employee's work schedule and requests but i can guarantee that not every single employee was personally consulted as to whether they wanted to work thanksgiving or black friday. target also flat-out ignored availability. for example, my fellow coworker never works fridays due to previous childcare arrangements with her daughter and she is scheduled to work black friday anyway. >> clearly it is not making people happy, but i thank you for coming in to share your thoughts. happy thanksgiving. >>> coming up, if congress can't get a deal done, how will it impact your pocketbook in the new year? >>> plus, how victims of hurricane sandy won't be forgotten this holiday. i had enough of feeling embarrassed about my skin. [ designer ] enough of just covering up my moderate to severe
. >> how do we move our country forward and reduce the deficit? by creating jobs and growing our economy, not by cutting programs that families rely on most. for working families it's all about putting americans back to work. not cutting the things we rely on most. >> there are signals they can't accept the kind of entitlement reforms in medicare and social security that senator graham is saying are prerequisite to a deal. >> let me tell you, first, george, and you know this, social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation. and we can do things and i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives its solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. we want medicare to be there for today's seniors and tomorrow, as well. we don't want to go to the poll and voucherizing it and we can make meaningful reforms without compromising the integrity of the program, making sure that the beneficiaries are n
. >> grow this economy and engage in tax reform. >> simplify the code. >> ywhen you get divorced, thats what happens. ♪ >> welcome back after the thanksgiving holiday and all eyes are on the fast approaching fiscal cliff with republicans possibly maybe looking to make a deal. with the deadline now just 36 days away, some top republicans suggest they could, shock, horror, break with their sacred pledge to grover norquist. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge i made tennesseans aware is just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> there's a lot that has been said about this pledge, and i will tell you when i go to the constituents that have elected -- re-elected me, it is not about that pledge. it really is about trying to solve problems. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> sounds great, doesn't it? only one problem, th
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. there is no question about it. yet liberals will deny it's happening or say it's all because of the bad economy. which is flat out false. in 1992 the black unemployment rate was 14.3%. in 2012, this year, the black unemployment rate is 14.3%. exactly the same. in hispanic precinct, the situation similar. this is about a dramatic change that is overwhelming the united states of america. not economic ma lace. when you have more than 100 million americans living in a home receiving stuff from the government, again, outside of medicare and social security, we're not counting that -- then you have a large dependence on the federal government. and what does that do? well, it saps motivation. why bust your tail when the feds will give you enough to get by? america became great because of individual self reliance, hard working people took chances, suffered, created things that helped the country. every day americans empowered this nation. not the federal and state governments. they're in place to protect us and to see that social order is kept. not to provide cradle to grave security. the founding fathers did
to a president with a failed economy, horrible unemployment numbers and shouldn't have been that difficult. >> and the republicans do revert back and try and say that we should try to get everyone get along and that wasn't president obama's approach. >> what i've learned from the results of this election is if i was somebody trying to get mitt romney elected tell the biography, this is one of the best biographies and resume's to return for president, i would have spent time even if it goes over a guy like mine's head, tell us about the companies and things you've done for people. and in the 30's, people were wondering you, how are you going to support four kids, and you found time to be a bishop in a church. and yes, the word mormon may have come up. >> and they broke the rule, you define yourself positively first, they allowed the obama people to define them for months, why they didn't put on the bio spot for me one of the greatest questions in politics. >> because the buyo spot. >> do you agree? >> absolutely right. and he has a great resume', but that's not what was going to win the ele
. there is no reason for any of that. >> on the other hand, there is a big boost to the economy because of black friday. >> there you go. >> except for the stuff that was -- >> stephanie: although the black president will get no credit. [ ♪ circus ♪ ] >> see what you did there. >> stephanie: you know how one holiday is over and the next one -- julie in seattle reminds us, war on christmas season is officially open. it is fox news warren christmas season. >> they're losing their [ bleep ] the whole benghazi thing isn't working out for them. >> the susan rice thing is petering out. >> stephanie: yes. oh dear. steph, deck the halls with simmering resentment and bitterness over the imaginary days gone by when everyone was white christian and happy happy, happy until the christmas lights came down. friday morning, fox on on some idiot story about the nativity scene. we have a guest to quote. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] who said it is christmas all over again. the grinch is trying to steal our holiday. it has been so b
are not spread across the board. the economy would take a hit of $500 billion, probably sending the country back boo recession. i get what the white house is saying and what people like patty murray are saying about how we should negotiate this and whether it's a cliff or a slope. >> it's a financial cliff claven. >> slope. >> i think even if it is a slope, if we go over the fiscal slope, it will do a lot of damage. >> right it could -- the markets will react, freak out. >> that's where the damage will be done. >> i love politico, a growing block of emboldened emboldened liberals. [ screaming ] >> say they're not afraid to watch defense spending get gouged. [ scream ] >> stephanie: if republicans captain see their way toward additional revenues then we're better off going over the cliff and readdressing this with a better congress in january. >> it's the republicans holding the country hostage. >> they're saying it's more of a slope where the economic effects will be handled gradually. we're going to have a whole new congress. >> more democrats. >> we have the technology. we can make them better
cut for high-income earners on the economy. there is this supposition, in fact i would call it bedrock republican philosophy economically speaking if you cut rates for top earners it benefits gdp. i will point to everybody for consideration a chart by the david leanhart of the "new york times" that shows what happens when you cut the top income tax rates. it doesn't help gdp. in fact, it falls. explain to me why republicans keep insisting on this fact when it doesn't appear at least to be true? >> well, the basic idea is that if you get to keep more of the rewards for each hour you work you'll work more hours or a little harder or be more likely to start a business. that's not a crazy idea on its face. in fact, it's probably right. the real question, though, is, is it a bigger effect or small effect? so republicans claim time and again this is a huge effect. democrats often claims it's a small effect. in the language of economics this is an argument about elast tisty. like my colleagues here go out and try to measure this. it's a difficult concept to measure. but that's basically the i
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